Some Thoughts On Some Thoughts

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  1. 72joiner says:

    I do not have a problem with cops having relevant degrees. It is a nonsense to suggest that having a degree in an unrelated subject is at all helpful. I recall a fast track officer who had a degree in sports science, qualified to work in a leisure centre but no help in policing.
    However why is not Police training recognised as an academic qualification in itself, in my few weeks in the training school all those years ago I learnt at least as much law as any law student did in a year, my exams were not open book exams either I had to know it, not just know where to look it up. In my probation I continued to learn I feel confident that at the conclusion of my training I had learnt as much as any university student. I certainly was prosecuting cases in court and winning with my opponents having 5 years further education to their ‘advantage’.
    As far as feeling inferior in dealing with more technically qualified persons than I, 20 years after my training I was teaching classes modules in PACE and related evidence giving, the classes were mixed, Police Probationers and Pupil Barristers. I had no problem in advising and correcting the Barristers even though I left school with only O levels. 15 years later I had a QC tell me that it was one of the best classes he had ever attended.
    In short, you don’t need a degree to be a cop, the learning involved in becoming a Cop should attract degree status.

  2. Rufus says:

    ‘Under the proposals, new police applicants would need to complete either a degree in practical policing or a conversion course after graduating in another subject.’

    Most other professions – such as medicine, veterinary sciences, etc – don’t start on £19,000! How many people will pay £9,000 a year to do a policing degree to get a job on £19,000? PCSOs don’t need degrees but many of them are now paid substantially more but don’t have the responsibility and enjoy full employment rights. Its a joke.

    The brightest and best won’t be opting for policing degrees.

    How will a PC aspiring to the rank of superintendant find the time to study a Masters degree too??? Its bonkers.

  3. Gary says:

    Perhaps the answer actually lies in the police training. I agree with 72 joiner which is 4 years before I did. The probationary training could easily be brought into line with a more module approach attracting credits towards a degree. As long as the practical aspect of the training is not sidelined to place greater emphasis on the theory. Extend the two year probationary period to three years, ensuring sufficient study time and you then have a copper with a degree who will have also bags of on the job training to supplement the theory. Then scrap the Sgt exam and make a masters in policing a requirement for further promotion to Insp and beyond. Make promotion to Sgt purely on merit. Just a thought

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