I Don’t Often Say This But Please Tell Me I’m Wrong

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  1. S says:

    Quite obvious they expect civil disorder. There’s loads of public order training. They also want more powers on internet/communications/cctv not just for real terrorism, but organised protest from ordinary people who might have put up with it all so far.

    Country is in a state. Its still a rich country, except sadly the wealth is all held by the few and their mates. The rest if us just pay. I’m seeing people in decent tax paying jobs put out of work or getting replacement low paid jobs paying less tax. More and more people fed up with issues in this country. Sadly though, if you talk to many police officers as I do, many don’t understand even the plight of civilian staff. Many joined from school, have done 20 years plus with promotional opportunities and no chance of redundancy. There are still many that should spare a thought for others. Whilst I get fed up with people protesting about everything, many normal people are having their lives, income, pensions, thoughts for their kids turned upside down through no fault of their own. They could be the people protesting shortly.

  2. S says:

    Quite obvious they expect civil disorder. There’s loads of public order training. They also want more powers on internet/communications/cctv not just for real terrorism, but organised protest from ordinary people who might have put up with it all so far.

    Country is in a state. Its still a rich country, except sadly the wealth is all held by the few and their mates. The rest if us just pay. I’m seeing people in decent tax paying jobs put out of work or getting replacement low paid jobs paying less tax. More and more people fed up with issues in this country. Sadly though, if you talk to many police officers as I do, many don’t understand even the plight of civilian staff. Many joined from school, have done 20 years plus with promotional opportunities and no chance of redundancy. There are still many that should spare a thought for others. Whilst I get fed up with people protesting about everything, many normal people are having their lives, income, pensions, thoughts for their kids turned upside down through no fault of their own. They could be the people protesting shortly.

  3. david says:

    What is remarkable in the last thirty plus years is how little public disorder we have seen. The Miners Strike, the Poll Tax, the first Gulf War and the occassional urban English rioting. I expect a MPS veteran would say different.

    Have the planners if they notice history was that factored that in? Somehow I doubt this government would listen to warnings from ACPO, even the Home Office.

    Disorder is the overt sign of dissent and protest. The poll tax campaign on the streets was – reportedly – outweighed in impact for local councils by the refusal to register and internal sabotage of records held on computer. I do wonder if one cause or a mix could swiftly gather dissenting support, without disorder and effectively gum up governance. The first milk / fuel protest comes to mind.

    One thing is certain, so far, the “usual suspects” have failed to have a cause that resonates widely and gain traction with the public. I would cite the small minority support amongst students at university over cuts etc as an example.

  4. david says:

    What is remarkable in the last thirty plus years is how little public disorder we have seen. The Miners Strike, the Poll Tax, the first Gulf War and the occassional urban English rioting. I expect a MPS veteran would say different.

    Have the planners if they notice history was that factored that in? Somehow I doubt this government would listen to warnings from ACPO, even the Home Office.

    Disorder is the overt sign of dissent and protest. The poll tax campaign on the streets was – reportedly – outweighed in impact for local councils by the refusal to register and internal sabotage of records held on computer. I do wonder if one cause or a mix could swiftly gather dissenting support, without disorder and effectively gum up governance. The first milk / fuel protest comes to mind.

    One thing is certain, so far, the “usual suspects” have failed to have a cause that resonates widely and gain traction with the public. I would cite the small minority support amongst students at university over cuts etc as an example.

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